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Would you be willing to let the group know what your affiliation is to Af-IX?</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> JP <froztbyte@froztbyte.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 August 2025 16:20<br>
<b>To:</b> Kyle Spencer via AF-IX <af-ix@af-ix.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AFIX Members] You have been added to Members</font>
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<p dir="auto">direct, but not harsh: as an organisation that stands representative to the needs of _many_ entities, surely you can understand how that level of responsibility and accountability should be the absolute baseline? at least, I would hope so</p>
<p dir="auto">regarding your question, I'm not clear on which part you would like to know an alternative about? the list on this mailman instance exists and operates _right now_, it can continue to be used as-is with exactly no modification. if you mean more
widely the notion of collaboration platforms, that's probably out of scope for discussion on this list but for example
<a href="https://european-alternatives.eu/" style="color:#3983C4">
https://european-alternatives.eu/</a> is an option that has become a popular reference point for many recently</p>
<p dir="auto">On 26 Aug 2025, at 16:14, Andrew Owens wrote:</p>
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That is an unnecessarily harsh response.</div>
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Can you rather suggest an alternative?</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 August 2025 16:08<br>
<b>To:</b> Kyle Spencer via AF-IX <af-ix@af-ix.net><br>
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