<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Nishal, JP, et al,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the feedback. Here's some context while we consider it:</div><div><br>1) We have always used Google for its collaboration tools including e-mail and shared docs via various personal accounts -- and Google has always received <a href="mailto:af-ix@af-ix.net">af-ix@af-ix.net</a> e-mails because some of our list members use Google's MX -- so the surveillance/AI situation remains unchanged AFAICT.<br><br>2) What *has* changed is that we recently unified this activity under a single domain (<a href="http://af-ix.org" target="_blank">af-ix.org</a>), issued official e-mail addresses to our new staff, consolidated our various Google Docs into a unified folder, and migrated some of our internal mailing lists to that platform (e.g. <a href="mailto:board@af-ix.org">board@af-ix.org</a>). This was essential for us to rapidly scale up our capabilities and undertake certain activities related to the AfPIF transition.<br><br></div><div>3) We thought that we had communicated these intentions via e-mail as part of our various updates on the secretariat development process, but it appears we did not do that well enough. We're doing our best here, so please don't call for our heads ;)<br><br></div><div>4) The <a href="mailto:af-ix@af-ix.net">af-ix@af-ix.net</a> archives have <b>not been moved or copied anywhere</b> and cannot be imported into Google Groups. They remain hosted on the Mailman server and remain accessible only to list members as they were before.<br><br></div><div>5) The new mailing list has the same permissions as the old list. Only invited members can post, view the archives, or list the membership.<br><br></div><div>6) The migration of <a href="mailto:af-ix@af-ix.net">af-ix@af-ix.net</a> to <a href="mailto:members@af-ix.org">members@af-ix.org</a> can be rolled back easily.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Kyle Spencer</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 4:17\u202fPM JP via AF-IX <<a href="mailto:af-ix@af-ix.net" target="_blank">af-ix@af-ix.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: JP <<a href="mailto:froztbyte@froztbyte.net" target="_blank">froztbyte@froztbyte.net</a>><br>To: Nishal Goburdhan via AF-IX <<a href="mailto:af-ix@af-ix.net" target="_blank">af-ix@af-ix.net</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 15:15:59 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [AFIX Members] You have been added to Members<br>hi<br>
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usually a lurker but I'll unlurk for this<br>
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I echo Nishal's sentiments in full, and would add that even _considering_ google services for this move was a mistake born of extreme folly: we are a significant number of years into an era where google can no longer be impartially trusted. there are multiple documented cases, spanning back probably 6~7y now, of people who've lost years (or sometimes even all) their work due to an automatically applied policy shift from the google organisation.<br>
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and then that's not even touching on the current geopolitical concerns..<br>
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this move should be reversed instantly, and, probably, there should be a review of decisionmaking to understand how this harebrained idea could even happen - and then ensure policy adjustmentments so that it cannot again<br>
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On 26 Aug 2025, at 13:20, Nishal Goburdhan via AF-IX wrote:<br>
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